With Winbox3, has no effect on the terminal panel. I'd be pleased if +w had no impact on the terminal panel in Winbox4 in a similar way (well, Preferably It might be as opposed to +w, but when it's got to alter, it has to change) - at the least the behaviour will be steady in between Winbox3 and Winbox4.Thanks, but that doesn't do the job for me be